Comments on: The Stigma of Occupational Prestige http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/ Practical advice for better living Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:39:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: David A. http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-664 David A. Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:13:23 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-664 Hi Jay, Your article was a great wake up call for me. I'm a chemical engineering major and more often than not, I look down on students in less demanding majors (like business and such). I realize its not exactly the same as what you are talking about in your article, but it really hit home with me. At the end of the day when we take off the suits and ties (or put away the books in my case), we're still all just human and worth no more because of our jobs/majors. Thanks for helping me move towards this realization a bit more. In time I hope to completely change my (wrong) way of thinking. Hi Jay,

Your article was a great wake up call for me. I’m a chemical engineering major and more often than not, I look down on students in less demanding majors (like business and such). I realize its not exactly the same as what you are talking about in your article, but it really hit home with me.

At the end of the day when we take off the suits and ties (or put away the books in my case), we’re still all just human and worth no more because of our jobs/majors. Thanks for helping me move towards this realization a bit more. In time I hope to completely change my (wrong) way of thinking.

]]> By: Jay Morrissey » The Art of Conversation: Stranger? No danger. http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-262 Jay Morrissey » The Art of Conversation: Stranger? No danger. Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:41:28 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-262 [...] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige [...] […] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige […]

]]> By: Sergio Ves http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-243 Sergio Ves Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:09:18 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-243 I have lived in one of the utmost vibrant Asia Capitals and worked in the fast paced Design environment for over 20 years. Than tired of the concrete jungle moved to another continent Africa. Still active in the same sector in one of the most glam cities in Africa ( go guessing), the many Italian ties that I wore in Asia with my many branded suits, that combined, were a status symbol, lost all their value with this move as no one wears ties in Africa unless needed. The value of my ties changed into a staggering value when converted into real estate market where for over 200 ties purchased at +- 150US$ I could have bought one more 3br house with a 2000m2 garden in a nice area in the late 90s. So much for occupational prestige! Asia is still engulfed in it and each trip to Hong Kong, Singapore, Bankok reflects this race for Branded goods. I love casual now but on the other extreme may I suggest . Do not let the TOO MUCH of casual take you over 100% of your time. We will never be able to change the fact that too many people with or without real money judge one another upon their first appearances and that business is more likely to come your way looking smart that in a well worn "comfi" parachute pant. Take it from a now, semi casual Designer. Comfort should still be smart. I now live in America and I see the rule is still very much on appearance that here is judged on the casual brands. Beware, that no one sees you in a " Walm.. Supermarket Brand", as selling your UP market goddies,wares or services may be jeopardy. All of the above does not matter IF you step out a Bentley Turbo on Rodeo Drive in a crappy jeans and rotten smelly T shirt . THERE you will be forgiven or seen as HIP and people still will lick your boots or flip flops from the supermarket IF they saw you exiting the steel horse. I am sure if the same multi millionaire ( or credit card debt holder) tries to sell anyone anything on the same street , people will walk on change side walk , call security etc . If NOT you may find yourself in a PRETTY WOMAN situation :-). Recall Miss O. Winfrey in Paris being refused entry at HERMES ? Now that is something that would no have happen in LA as sales staff know the richer the clients the less they may ( not all do) care about their appearances or suffer from Occupational Prestige. Beware not to crush into that low key Toyota Prius, as some mogul or movie star lawyer may just sue you for a whiplash worth 500K to their bank account. I have lived in one of the utmost vibrant Asia Capitals and worked in the fast paced Design environment for over 20 years. Than tired of the concrete jungle moved to another continent Africa. Still active in the same sector in one of the most glam cities in Africa ( go guessing), the many Italian ties that I wore in Asia with my many branded suits, that combined, were a status symbol, lost all their value with this move as no one wears ties in Africa unless needed.
The value of my ties changed into a staggering value when converted into real estate market where for over 200 ties purchased at +- 150US$ I could have bought one more 3br house with a 2000m2 garden in a nice area in the late 90s. So much for occupational prestige! Asia is still engulfed in it and each trip to Hong Kong, Singapore, Bankok reflects this race for Branded goods.
I love casual now but on the other extreme may I suggest . Do not let the TOO MUCH of casual take you over 100% of your time.
We will never be able to change the fact that too many people with or without real money judge one another upon their first appearances and that business is more likely to come your way looking smart that in a well worn “comfi” parachute pant. Take it from a now, semi casual Designer. Comfort should still be smart. I now live in America and I see the rule is still very much on appearance that here is judged on the casual brands. Beware, that no one sees you in a ” Walm.. Supermarket Brand”, as selling your UP market
goddies,wares or services may be jeopardy.
All of the above does not matter IF you step out a Bentley Turbo on Rodeo Drive in a crappy jeans and rotten smelly T shirt .
THERE you will be forgiven or seen as HIP and people still will lick your boots or flip flops from the supermarket IF they saw you exiting the steel horse. I am sure if the same multi millionaire ( or credit card debt holder) tries to sell anyone anything on the same street , people will walk on change side walk , call security etc .
If NOT you may find yourself in a PRETTY WOMAN situation :-).
Recall Miss O. Winfrey in Paris being refused entry at HERMES ?
Now that is something that would no have happen in LA as sales staff know the richer the clients the less they may ( not all do) care about their appearances or suffer from Occupational Prestige. Beware not to crush into that low key Toyota Prius, as some mogul or movie star lawyer may just sue you for a whiplash worth 500K to their bank account.

]]> By: Preuzet članak: Umetnost verbalnog maltretiranja - naučite kako da uzvratite! | Dan u životu kompanije http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-223 Preuzet članak: Umetnost verbalnog maltretiranja - naučite kako da uzvratite! | Dan u životu kompanije Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:43:43 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-223 [...] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige [...] […] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige […]

]]> By: Jay Morrissey » The Art of Verbal Intimidation : Learn it and fight back! http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-212 Jay Morrissey » The Art of Verbal Intimidation : Learn it and fight back! Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:33:52 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-212 [...] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige [...] […] The Stigma of Occupational Prestige […]

]]> By: Ben Mealey http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-201 Ben Mealey Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:44:47 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-201 What kind of fellow insults a waiter before he gets his food? Despicable, destructive? Without a doubt. Smart? Not very! What kind of fellow insults a waiter before he gets his food? Despicable, destructive? Without a doubt.

Smart? Not very!

]]> By: Free From Broke http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-181 Free From Broke Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:15:36 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-181 I used to be caught up in what people did but what I've realized is it's more important that you do what you do well. Doesn't matter what it is. And you can't judge a book by it's cover. That guy in the ripped overalls with beat up hands may own two plumbing companies and make three times as the guy in the fancy suit. Neither is better than the other. They are just different is all. I used to be caught up in what people did but what I’ve realized is it’s more important that you do what you do well. Doesn’t matter what it is. And you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. That guy in the ripped overalls with beat up hands may own two plumbing companies and make three times as the guy in the fancy suit. Neither is better than the other. They are just different is all.

]]> By: Rebecca Shanks http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-160 Rebecca Shanks Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:28:16 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-160 <i>The New York Times</i> and ABC's <i>World News Webcast</i> (the podcast version of their nightly news) both reported on Michael Gates Gill. He has written a book about his perspective as one who once held what most consider a prestige job. He now works at Starbucks and is, he says, very happy. His book at Amazon.com: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Starbucks-Saved-Life-Privilege/dp/1592402860" rel="nofollow">How Starbucks Saved My Life</a> The New York Times and ABC’s World News Webcast (the podcast version of their nightly news) both reported on Michael Gates Gill. He has written a book about his perspective as one who once held what most consider a prestige job. He now works at Starbucks and is, he says, very happy.

His book at Amazon.com: How Starbucks Saved My Life

]]> By: Prashant Sarkar http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-135 Prashant Sarkar Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:12:57 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-135 The problem of occupational prestige is even worse in developing countries like India where the prevailing economic and social conditions aggravate this problem.. For example, one of the primary reasons why parents (almost) force their children to pursue medicine/engineering in India is because of the concept of arranged marriages.. The education level, occupation and salary of the groom play a far more important role in marriages in India than anywhere else.. In fact, for many middle class families, it is considered a failure when the son pursues arts or commerce instead of engineering or medicine in college.. People will automatically assume that the individual is pursuing a BBA or B.Com. only because he/she couldn't pass the engineering or medical entrance exams. Nowadays, however, things are changing slowly for the better and there seems to be a growing respect for alternate professions in India. The problem of occupational prestige is even worse in developing countries like India where the prevailing economic and social conditions aggravate this problem..

For example, one of the primary reasons why parents (almost) force their children to pursue medicine/engineering in India is because of the concept of arranged marriages.. The education level, occupation and salary of the groom play a far more important role in marriages in India than anywhere else.. In fact, for many middle class families, it is considered a failure when the son pursues arts or commerce instead of engineering or medicine in college.. People will automatically assume that the individual is pursuing a BBA or B.Com. only because he/she couldn’t pass the engineering or medical entrance exams.

Nowadays, however, things are changing slowly for the better and there seems to be a growing respect for alternate professions in India.

]]> By: Prashant Sarkar http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-133 Prashant Sarkar Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:01:12 +0000 http://www.jaymorrissey.com/2008/01/02/the-stigma-of-occupational-prestige/#comment-133 Good stuff... your articles are really useful/thought-provoking.. will be back for more :) Good stuff… your articles are really useful/thought-provoking.. will be back for more :)

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